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4 hours ago, nullmoon said:

Likewise if you can have intellectual, deep conversations but you don't have any inkling of lust towards them, it won't work in certain ways.

Asexuals can have really good relationships and make it work despite the lack of lust.

But I also agree on you, sexual compatibility is quite important, lust levels need to be somehow similar (be it super high or almost nonexistent) or both parties will be often frustrated.

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One thing I've noticed about being single is that my anxiety goes down from ~100 to ~10.  In relationships or just when I was crushing on somebody I was always worrying about being with that person and being meaningful to them, and I would constantly have anxiety attacks and crying fits over it.  I would always keep it to myself though out of fear of being annoying and losing that person over it.  

I've been single for some time now though, and I struggle with low self esteem issues so I still have problems in regards to feeling meaningless and unwanted, but my reactions to it now are so majorly different.  I don't have nightly anxiety attacks and I can count all the times I've cried over it in the last few months on one hand.  The thoughts are still there and they still hurt but I'm just so much more calm. 

I don't know if this is because I've never been with the right people for me or if I'm just unfit to be in a relationship.  My self esteem issues point to the latter though.  Being single isn't all that fun because I'm not much more productive and it makes my issues more apparent to me, but I can at least sleep at night and worry (less) about my own self.  

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7 hours ago, Ultra Silvam said:

I don't know if this is because I've never been with the right people for me or if I'm just unfit to be in a relationship. 

I hear you and can totally empathise with what you're going through. To be fair I would argue it's the former; being with the right person makes you feel a lot more comfortable in your own skin. Having that certainty and security from someone really makes a difference. If I'm in a relationship without attention/affection, I feel so anxious about myself, about the relationship etc. I've had those crying fits and felt that frustration and despair both in and out of relationships and know how oppressive it is. 

 

While you're single, try to work on yourself as much as possible. I suffer from social anxiety but I've been doing my best to get out there, talk to randomers (even saying hello is a huge effort), and become less self conscious. Not saying this will work for everyone but it's calming to just blend into the hum of society; it helps to remind me that everyone has their own crap to deal with and that the world doesn't revolve around me. 

 

Be comfortable in yourself, work on what you want from life, and wait for the right person to step into your life. I know it sounds cliche but I don't know, I just feel more hopeful as a result of it :)

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Fuck, I don't know what's wrong with me but being single is really getting me down lately. It seems like no matter what I try literally no one is interested in me. Doesn't matter if it's meeting strangers in public, dating apps, or trying to get closer to friends who are potential interests. 

Keeping myself busy with personal projects and events has helped but it's not enough of a distraction. Is there a pill I can drink that just drains my emotions out within 24 hours and allows me to go about my life normally? Cuz fuuuck.

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On 9/13/2019 at 5:03 PM, ghost said:

Fuck, I don't know what's wrong with me but being single is really getting me down lately. It seems like no matter what I try literally no one is interested in me. Doesn't matter if it's meeting strangers in public, dating apps, or trying to get closer to friends who are potential interests. 

Keeping myself busy with personal projects and events has helped but it's not enough of a distraction. Is there a pill I can drink that just drains my emotions out within 24 hours and allows me to go about my life normally? Cuz fuuuck.

I've been going through more or less the same kind of thing myself and know it isn't easy. Sounds like you're suffering from more than just "being single" though, as in, it's making you depressed as well? If that's the case I highly recommend you see a GP and tell them you're struggling with every day life and these thoughts (anxiety probably) are holding you back and they may refer you to see someone about it and probably give you some medication which will keep your emotions more balanced. Wont make everything perfect but that should help to some degree. The pills will take longer than 24 hours to kick in though unfortunately.

As for nobody not liking you, well, I could probably write an essay on this topic but will just throw out a few brief ideas which hopefully you can gain something from. Firstly, I tend to think subconciously people can sense that negativity in you and to be fair, people aren't usually attracted to negative people, people like happy, fun, confident people.... Not to say that if you're not these things (hell I'm definitely not, haha) nobody will ever find you attractive but by being so negative and having expectations that noone will be interested in you I think, accidentally you're keeping people a certain distance away from you in which case aren't able to build a close enough relationship with them in order to progress to anything further than simple friendship. Which is great, as making friends is really good and not every girl/guy/whatever you make friends with has to be a romantic interest. As far as finding out if people are interested in you or not, I mean, it's better to just be forward and to the point sometimes, which I know sounds a bit scary but just being like "look, I really think you're attractive, do you wanna hang out sometime?" is much better than subtle hints which get mistaken for tokens of friendship or generally cause confusion, "does this person fancy me? Seems like maybe they do. But if they're only being a friend, that was really sweet of them." so from that you can grow closer in some way, maybe just as friends, maybe things will become more than that. But main point here is don't be subtle, if you're interested, tell them you're interested, if you get rejected, it's not fun but "oh well" life goes on and you know not to waste time with that person anymore. Maybe that person meant a lot to you, but once you've made it clear, either things progress in a positive way for you or you can move on and forget about trying anything with that person and avoid all confusion.

Just a few of my thoughts.

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@Kabukichoatmidnight

 

I'm doing much better now. I think I was just going through a moment. Also, I think age has to do with part of it. I'm on the older side and not finding someone has made me anxious about it. But I'm realizing more and more it's not uncommon for people my age (or even older) to not have found someone yet. And I'm coming to terms with that.

 

And the person I had an interest in, I've since lost my interest in them romantically. For me I think amongst friends that kind of relationship should come naturally. In this case it felt very one sided so I got the sense she wasn't into me at all that way. I'm also all about getting to the point and hate love games. But I also have to feel a connection with the other friend.

 

When it comes to strangers though, I have no issues letting them know I'm interested. Hell, I asked someone on my morning bus route to work a couple months ago 😂

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"If she's one in a million, there are 37 of her in California."

I don't remember where I heard this quote but it changed my perspective on life. Dating too, but life.

I've been in a relationship for almost seven years, so I've been out the dating game for some time. Even if I was single, I'd have no tangible advice to give. I wasn't exactly attracting throngs of women to me for being myself, and that may have been a blessing in disguise for me. As I grow older, I realize just how toxic and damaged so many people are, and inviting that kind of energy into your life only brings negativity. The only thing worse than feeling single and alone is feeling lonely in a shit relationship.
 

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I've come to the depressing realization that I'm approaching my thirties and that's hindering further my ability to form close friendships, since everyone around me is more and more invested in their significant others/offspring and is making it really difficult to form close friendship bonds when their priorities clearly lie somewhere else. The whole inherently sexual dynamic around interactions makes it really difficult to form the kind of bonds I need, be it because I can't provide it or because people are getting it elsewhere and thus forming closer bonds elsewhere.
I think I might have depression and it's embarrassing to even get to the point where, despite being and extremely independent person, loneliness has me sinking further and further (and thus further devoting time and resources to mild coping mechanisms such as VK).
I'm pissed movies and books lied to me about close friendships and I feel I face deep suffering one way or another, either by depriving myself of the emotional connection I need, either suffering from "giving in" to someone else's needs in order to have said emotional connection.

 

I don't think I can live my whole life like this.

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23 hours ago, Komorebi said:

I've come to the depressing realization that I'm approaching my thirties and that's hindering further my ability to form close friendships, since everyone around me is more and more invested in their significant others/offspring and is making it really difficult to form close friendship bonds when their priorities clearly lie somewhere else. The whole inherently sexual dynamic around interactions makes it really difficult to form the kind of bonds I need, be it because I can't provide it or because people are getting it elsewhere and thus forming closer bonds elsewhere.
I think I might have depression and it's embarrassing to even get to the point where, despite being and extremely independent person, loneliness has me sinking further and further (and thus further devoting time and resources to mild coping mechanisms such as VK).
I'm pissed movies and books lied to me about close friendships and I feel I face deep suffering one way or another, either by depriving myself of the emotional connection I need, either suffering from "giving in" to someone else's needs in order to have said emotional connection.

 

I don't think I can live my whole life like this.

You definitely sound to me like you're suffering with depression, not a maybe, so advice before you sink even further, seek professional help, see your GP and get some therapy sorted. Seriously it'll change your life forever, hopefully for the better! Is a big step so you have to make those moves when you're ready otherwise if you're not ready you probably wont benefit from them. But it is definitely worth keeping in mind, things don't change unless you make changes happen. : ) But yeah sounds like we're in a fairly similar situation to be honest so completely get what you mean. I don't know if it's even necessarily an age thing, I mentioned this in another thread so not going into the same detail here, but think when you get in a depressive state people sense your negativity and you end up subconciously keeping yourself distant from others and they keep themselves distant from you. But yeah having lots of time to invest in yourself and your own interests isn't entirely a bad thing as long as your interests and stuff aren't harmful to your health, like drinking/drugs etc... So yeah just take time to focus on you and hopefully you'll bump into the right person at the right place at the right time and all will be good. :)

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I think I've reached that point where I just don't give a shite anymore. About a month or two ago, I was ill and couldn't leave my room for five days so I had kind of a mental breakdown out of loneliness which was horrible but at the end of it, I just felt... calm, like I completely burnt myself out. I feel absolutely fine now and it's weird; like I cared so much about it before but now I'm just in this state of calm. Like, so calm that my libido damn near died which I thought would never happen but thank fuck it has. It's still there and you can bet your arse I'll still look at a hot guy and acknowledge how damn hot he is (see my profile picture UwU) but it no longer torments me. As for romance... again, I just don't really give a shite (tbf tho I always gave more of a shite about getting physically close to someone as opposed to romantically). The best way I can describe it is this: if I love someone and they make me happy, just being around them is enough so I don't need to solidify that by declaring my love for them. "I love you" or nah, my feelings wouldn't change as long as we could enjoy each other's company. That, and the way everyone else describes relationships doesn't really sound ideal to me, anyways. All that "a relationship will put your emotional strength to the test", "it's a huge risk", "it's a lot of hard work", etc just sounds like a load of malarkey to me. I like this feeling of calm and I don't need some hard, risky test to ruin that (even if I did want a relationship, I feel like if you really love someone it should be easy and natural and you should know them well enough by the time you get with them for it to not feel like a test). Getting to this state of comfort in my own company was enough of a hard, risky test, thank you very much! Plus... if I ever do get into a relationship, be it romantic, sexual or both, the only risk will be potentially falling back into that pit of loneliness if it all goes tits-up for whatever reason.

 

TLDR: I'm finally fucking happy without needing another person's touch to validate that. Don't worry, I'm still human and I'm still a social creature; I'm just happier than I was before, that's all. This was kind of a ramble but eh. It feels good to share it. :)

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The sad part about being single is filling that void of "how was your day, hun?" and having fun together with idols because you feel betrayed and lonely as fuk if they retire, disband or get married 

 

Yes, I Am Looking At You Tatsuhisa Suzuki 

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On 5/5/2020 at 2:20 AM, nullmoon said:

I've decided to give online dating another go and not a single person on the app I'm using has 'visual kei' as an interest. Fuck this XD 

I've completely given up on hoping that anyone in a 200KM radius of me even knows wtf VK is. 

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15 hours ago, Total Saikou said:

I've completely given up on hoping that anyone in a 200KM radius of me even knows wtf VK is. 

People are seriously oblivious, man. They act like they ain't never seen androgynous Nihon shock rockers bein spicy. 

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1 minute ago, lei0418 said:

People are seriously oblivious, man. They act like they ain't never seen androgynous Nihon shock rockers bein spicy. 

Whenever I show VK to someone they either ask if it's Kpop (😭) or if they are anime show promoters (😕), that's where VK is at right now where I'm living. 

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58 minutes ago, Total Saikou said:

Whenever I show VK to someone they either ask if it's Kpop (😭) or if they are anime show promoters (😕), that's where VK is at right now where I'm living. 

Pretty much. People hear oh you're into Japanese music? *lists off a dozen obnoxious J/K pop bands* then wants to talk comics. Like really, I've never read a single manga front-to-back and have zero interest your cosplay fanaticism. Your language is night and day from mine. It's likely we have about 3-4 words in common. 🙄

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6 minutes ago, lei0418 said:

Pretty much. People hear oh you're into Japanese music? *lists off a dozen obnoxious J/K pop bands* then wants to talk comics. Like really, I've never read a single manga front-to-back and have zero interest your cosplay fanaticism. Your language is night and day from mine. It's likely we have about 3-4 words in common. 🙄

They always ask me if I like Hatsune Miku 💀💀💀 EVERY DAMN TIME :wan-48: 

 

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So now that I'm in the singles club, decided to browse tinder. Not my first experience with it, but there's a weird trend I've been noticing on dating apps (and this goes for even queer dating apps)

 

Why are yall describing yourself as 'borderline alcoholic' and 'crackhead' on your profile? 

 

Or outright saying 'I've got a ton of issues' 'Depressed bitch' 'Looking for someone with mommy issues' 

 

I know we all have problems in this day and age but why are you giving me a list of all your mental/physical illnesses before I even say hi. And describing Ted Mosby as your spirit animal? 

 


I actually have to type this profile out cuz this shit is unbelievable

 
Scott, 26

I like to keep a gun under my pillow so incase of a burglary I'm able to shoot myself to avoid social interaction with another human being

:chi: 

 

jfc, either I'm too old for this or the world has gone insane. Impossible to swipe right on anyone, yall suck at selling yourself. It makes me even appreciate the simplicity of that one guy whose profile just said "we go to pub and then we fuck."

 

Anyway after spending one evening on it and losing a trillion brain cells 

 

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Time to get back to my collection of husbandos and waifus, I am not looking to deal with other people's bullshit 

 

(I'm actually having fun being a full time weeb again and frustrations aside, enjoying my time alone)

 

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14 hours ago, platy said:

Why are yall describing yourself as 'borderline alcoholic' and 'crackhead' on your profile? 

 

Or outright saying 'I've got a ton of issues' 'Depressed bitch' 'Looking for someone with mommy issues' 

 

I know we all have problems in this day and age but why are you giving me a list of all your mental/physical illnesses before I even say hi. And describing Ted Mosby as your spirit animal? 

It's supposed to be lol ecksdee funny to make fun of a taboo topic (specifically mental health as it's been painfully taboo in western society for a long time now. Even saying the word "therapist" makes boomers instantly recoil in terror as they fear that you are a deranged psychopath or something. However, many mental illness are somewhat common and need treatment such as clinical depression) but tbh a lot of these millennials fail to stick the landing with these jokes. In fact, a lot of them just make this shit up for the meme (usually a garden variety basic white bitch who thinks that she has PTSD from the Starbucks barista writing her name wrong). Ngl Scott nailed that joke though.

 

That being said, I've always found it strange how being yourself is never present on any E-dating sites, other than Christian Mingle and sometimes OK Cupid. It's always some silly, over-the-top joke they stole from Reddit. If anything, these attempts at being "unique" and "quirky" just make them as monotonous as everybody else. 

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7 hours ago, Total Saikou said:

It's supposed to be lol ecksdee funny to make fun of a taboo topic (specifically mental health as it's been painfully taboo in western society for a long time now. Even saying the word "therapist" makes boomers instantly recoil in terror as they fear that you are a deranged psychopath or something. However, many mental illness are somewhat common and need treatment such as clinical depression) but tbh a lot of these millennials fail to stick the landing with these jokes. In fact, a lot of them just make this shit up for the meme (usually a garden variety basic white bitch who thinks that she has PTSD from the Starbucks barista writing her name wrong). Ngl Scott nailed that joke though.

 

That being said, I've always found it strange how being yourself is never present on any E-dating sites, other than Christian Mingle and sometimes OK Cupid. It's always some silly, over-the-top joke they stole from Reddit. If anything, these attempts at being "unique" and "quirky" just make them as monotonous as everybody else. 

 

I understand millennial humour is dark and about self deprecation, I do it all the time myself - but only to people I'm close with. It's all well good to normalise therapy and mental illness via humour but idk, maybe a dating website/app isn't the place to do it. If I'm looking for a hook up or even a life-long partner, am I more likely to go the person who's a self proclaimed alcoholic or the one who just says they like football and a beer? (realistically both would be my nightmare, but you know what I mean?) These things shouldn't become a personality trait or something you use to sell yourself/brag about. 

 

And what you said about the ott stolen reddit joke, I came across several people whose profile said 'current status: cooked for two, ate for both'' hurr durr  I guess it's hard to stand out among a sea of desperation where your odds are pretty low to begin with.

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On 11/11/2020 at 5:27 AM, platy said:

So now that I'm in the singles club, decided to browse tinder. Not my first experience with it...

Think you might be on the wrong app. I recommend Hinge if you haven't tried it yet. It's probably my favorite dating app because it's more focused on reacting to a specific part of someone's profile (whether it's a photo or a question/answer). It's designed to spark a conversation rather than just awkwardly trying to create a starting point reacting to whatever vague or edgy profile you come across. Sure tinder has its uses, but for me Hinge has been a more meaningful experience (as much meaningful as a dating app can be anyways).


Haven't used a dating app in a year though, so not sure if anything's changed in the online dating realm (still single though, woot!).

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Totally forgot about this thread lol:hum:

I never tried dating apps, I heard there are creeps on it lol. andd... I'm scared af.

Also, been forever single since 2017, 'cause yeah traumatic experience and since then I'm not actually looking for it either.

People are always shocked or surprised that I like VK/J-Rock music, because ''it doesn't fit in my character''/ as the way I look and I don't care much about it though.

Hmm...  neither my ex liked that I listened to those heavy shit either rofl. I'm happy that I can at least share my interests with my online friends (and on MH too) :P 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Linh-san said:

Totally forgot about this thread lol:hum:

I never tried dating apps, I heard there are creeps on it lol. andd... I'm scared af.

Also, been forever single since 2017, 'cause yeah traumatic experience and since then I'm not actually looking for it either.

People are always shocked or surprised that I like VK/J-Rock music, because ''it doesn't fit in my character''/ as the way I look and I don't care much about it though.

Hmm...  neither my ex liked that I listened to those heavy shit either rofl. I'm happy that I can at least share my interests with my online friends (and on MH too) :P 

Dating is over rated anyways. It's great if you find someone you care about and they care about you too. But it's so complicated and messy.

 

Feel ya on the traumatic experience. The first person I ever confessed to and they told me they felt the same ended up stringing me along while they were trying to choose between me and another guy. Saw some red flags but I was too naive and blinded by what I wanted. In a good/bad way I never trust anyone now. 

 

I'm sure it's different for girls but I've had generally good experiences using dating apps. Biggest problem I've ran into as a guy is girls telling me they're "actually too busy to date but have an account just out of curiosity." And being cat-fished. It also definitely matters which one you use. Different apps for different folks ranging from "Tinder: looking for a fvck buddy" to "Hinge: looking for something serious". Not saying that any one app has an exclusive type of audience but you're just more likely to come across certain types of people in one app vs another.

 

I've actually had some of the deepest conversations I've ever had with people I've met on dating apps. I'm even still friends with one girl I ended up meeting IRL and we'll end up commenting on each other's insta stories from time to time. It really is a crapshoot though. Like 90% of the time it will be a waste of time, but you do meet some cool people.

 

If it makes you feel better I'm sure nearly everyone on the forum has gotten the same response from people for their interests haha. It's different cause she's family, but my sister ALWAYS makes fun of me for listening to music that doesn't "match" my personality. When I listen to rap and hip/hop she'll be like "Oh, you think you're cool now?" 😂

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